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Dallas ISD Board Meeting on Home Rule Charter

Dallas ISD Board Of Trustees discuss Home Rule process at a Called Board Meeting on March 3, 2014.

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he'd wear agenda item number or discussion
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Texas Education Code Chapter 12 subchapter B
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home rule school district chart season
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and prone to view you have copies I'll
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the stature ac
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website at this
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nothing there this current board or passport
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have ever dealt with on a unique situation
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and we're just here to
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ask our attorneys questions about the statute and
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seek advice on outer percy
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we may or may not go back into closed session but mall
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open it up for questions on the star where trustee Mishka
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okay on
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I female send questions to you not
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gonna go through the house I am my reading of the statute
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on the board with a two-thirds vote or more
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King yeah from time
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here hand their are constituent political they don't have action
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and true I was hoping that your child
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give us over a big sacrifice here before we act questions about it and that would
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have that on-the-record
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we put now and online listening are paying attention are interested in this
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of another not asking questions out of the blue and I would go
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can procure order and also some background about how the statute came to
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be and what its main purpose was
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at the comic origination cuz I've had some interesting a map
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these make good points and you might actually answer your question forget I'm
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some
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who wants stark near the background from
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thus chapter was parked car recover cation of the Education Code in 1995
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and is included in the same chapter is a provision for a panorama charter schools
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and campus turner's it was part no
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a move back for them to provide
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what they call school choice we're still talking about school choice
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alternative forms of governance am programs
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am other things to to for people to use
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are as I said it was adopted in 1995
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this particular thing it was modeled after home rule charter
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later use for cities and him the state
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I'll City dallas has a home rule charter are basically
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Constitution establishes hell
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the city is Ron Howard is covered I
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as of today no one has taking advantage of the Home Rule Charter
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particles your speculation as to why I'm
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I was working at the Capitol after the car initially it seemed like nobody
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wanted to be the first
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amber and I think at some point people cuts were forgot it was there
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it has pretty steep or
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Parma better which will go into
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at a later time when the public votes to
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approval is sort of a pervert the culprit is patient has to be 25 percent
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registered voters am you all over from Air Force school board elections on
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generally more likely to get 10 percent horrific levels maybe another thing that
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help people back
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the me wanna get some other highlights for
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ok now will generally the
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the to the Home Rule Charter exams
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are cousin actually exempted just allows
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redistricting operate under its own rules
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am NOT under many of the rules for
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school districts operate under normal a
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perot-like for out well
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riddle laundry list the rules that do apply
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bikers for example I'd say one other ones for to doesn't really apply
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is chapter 21 set up the provision for hiring and termination of teachers
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called due process requirements
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the only provision that the reply relate to
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provision
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so you can't require horse teachers to join groups
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%uh you have the right to join her up to join in if you do join
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have you do subtracted from your paycheck lab called the chapter 21
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provision
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would not apply unless the people writing the Charter program
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and approved to the one example
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right there they will still be subject to all the rules as far as you can
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discriminate
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her criminal laws public careful
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education operation management student admissions student attendance
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20 21 no pass no play
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I'll chapter 13 I'm literally accountability provisions
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I'll there'd still be subject to the start saying I am
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and there's a number others from our pentagon here
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you will read the paper and paper did a good job so they can't walk
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needs to happen for the stronger to a car
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and that's either two-thirds are you sick so you would grow
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to point are adopt a resolution ordered another Charter Commission be pointed or
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you
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are presented with a petition signed by five percent a registered voters
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breather hose occurred within 30 days you would be required to use a board
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would be required to appoint
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with Shin that's fifteen people
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for must be reflect over
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the racial ethnic and socioeconomic controversy over this for
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for at least a must be parents of school-aged children
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and foremost be classroom teachers
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which will be selected by a professional staff Lee
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district so
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the content of the charter would describe the governing structure
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district am acceptable student performance compliance with under
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applicable
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statutes whatsoever are others a provision in here
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analog it says it will be subject to pre-clearance part
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here no longer applies because of the Supreme Court decision last year Shelby
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County versus whole
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or preclearance basically doesn't exist anymore
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the Charter Commission submits the Prostar to the Commissioner
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education the Commissioner has 30 days to review it
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think either prevent or Arbys highlight in which case
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it would be deemed to be approved
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the Prostar would then be submitted to the voters
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other or would call the election upper secure form election date that occurs at
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least 45 days
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after the date and as I said earlier you be at least 25 percent of the registered
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voters to participate that's
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besides for the election to Ballard
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arm if it doesn't work first time your order number one
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I R you can keep ordering them by here
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the only 1i see your hard to do as early as far as
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try try again is second election
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there are provisions that here for charter amendments which are very
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similar
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to the provision Harley approval in the first place
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the governing body of the district wants the charmers
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established could on its own motion submit a proposed charter amendment but
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to the crash her and then goes to the voters or there's also a sign comforted
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and five percent
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play registered voters cam submit a petition asking for an amendment
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eicher foster the highlights
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there some other things in their locker
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you can create them stricken adopted operate under
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any governing structure I'll this board would continue to
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operate until such time house the other born
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became a factor much that they would be included in the Charter itself
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well pretty much ur
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an unnatural at good period time if for example 5 percent ratify
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or five percent %uh voters come forward with the petition
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or there's a petition representing for travelers should say it differently
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on at that moment what is what is the process that this board undertake since
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there are no
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guidelines established there isn't a precedent their I've never been this
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type
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process before how the second created and
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then it's my understanding from the statute that than that when the
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commission is ultimately appointed seated in
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doing its work it has a year to come up with a plan a Maxwell
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year maximum the year right 30 days once you perceive the petition to appoint a
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board
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to pinpoint the Charter Commission we also have to establish if I'm not
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mistaken
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be on Charter itself for the Commission
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for the tournament we get a charge
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the Charter Commission will draft the car athletic body gift that
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Commission a charge her well you could say
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were appointing you to do what the law requires you to do
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quarter-point Commission the Commission creates charter
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they can decide the SCO the entirety im what it is
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we're going to look at once you appoint a commission your job is done
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at a bar spam after her the board
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just a and out but
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eaten %um your mainly minutes you have some ministerial duties after you point
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the
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commission but nothing really substantive
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have to have any are you
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gonna ok
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I was so lucky just anything then and the 15-member second appointed are bound
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by
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the same rules up public service in other words there said that the entire
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commission process would be subject to the Open Meetings Act
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would be subject to on individuals who would have to make full disclosures they
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would all city
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I soon under the same some provisions to deal with their complex in with related
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is the governing body
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background checks are some other process by which now
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they would be vetted or otherwise
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the governing bodies are being held to the same standards to public officials
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essentially
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ok
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okay just down 10 make sure that
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week we all understand if
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the petitioners presented to us to requisite number of
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valid signatures the board
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has to appoint a a Charter Commission
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week we have no I no ability to bowl
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yessir know whether or not we want autocracy
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right it's mandatory okay and then
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if they on
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with respect to the questions that were asked about charging the Commission the
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Board cannot
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instructor Commission anyway to say writer
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charter that keeps
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all the rules the same except changes the
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like the school year we haven't window ability to do that
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suggested I don't think you have the authority to make
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get into it or okay and then when the Tom
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charter commit Commission prepares a drafted the Charter
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does it go back to the board for any comments just go directly to the voters
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hour goes directly to the commission her education
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partly for review and approval but in terms of the board's
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ability to make suggestions or changes
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to the Charter ready to the commission after the board
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ok and and then if the charter is approved
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by the public and Jack I think you touched on this
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and the board wants to change something in the Charter
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what what is the process the board can buy a
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two-thirds majority vote order another commissioned
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to I'm
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to be impaneled and then up basically has to hope that the
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next Commission might make the changes the board recommends
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shoe to appoint a commission there the governing body or how
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ability to them boat
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on anything monique on CarFinder there
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there the governing body with respect to the Charter in the meantime all the
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charter committee is
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is working on the draft the
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elected trustees what will still be governing the district
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church this Salam it's only one hr
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if the Charter passes the requisite but as when
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you would no longer be the actual government
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okay and and then with respect to the choices that
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charter Commission can can make
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any it can I think you mentioned that
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on much chapter 21 is something that
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the Charter Commission can decide whether or not to you include
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Anna in the new charter what what about the accountability and high-stakes
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testing rolson
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star testing they're all something that they're them
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district would still be under got a Charter Commission cannot
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changed our are make the district not subject to the high testing
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high-stakes testing
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dead with with respect to
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issues like breaking up the district
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which we sometimes hear a lot about certainly with the on the White Rock
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area
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I am does the Commission have the power to
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break the district up into separate parts
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assuming butter tea partyers prove it
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I am I'm not absolutely sure
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you the very first section
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and passes the adoption of a home url school district charm our school
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district does not affect
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the district boundaries which
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would seem to me to say goodbye you the camp by charter change the boundaries
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are
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herm I think you could argue but the answer is No
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for this has never been done before and if
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we wanted to get an opinion on tap
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from can is that is ke aver
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place we would go for that opinion or would we
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an hour I memory SARS that information
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or I just like should I'm
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car fine I understand what you just told me it's not the board that is going to
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be
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making any of those determinations if
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if the Commission op had
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I'd decides that that's something that they want to explore
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as something for the Commission to look at for and the Commissioner will
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review their for Galletti and the Crushers opinion about whether they
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believe our
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and
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this poor can still aspirin switch doctor blackburn
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ask happy to sumner a note to the general counsel Atty
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my experience with them is generally very
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where has the time to answer questions like them and then
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then backing up to the situation where
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but a petition with the ballot number of signatures is presented to the board
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the border points the Commission at that point
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in time the board has nothing left to do
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with respect to I taking action
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on on the charter or the Charter Commission
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just our commissions impaneled and they
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draft the Charter and bring it to the
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to the voters for a vote the board doesn't
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witness her asked the Commissioner right for approval
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the borders have to call for the election pearly approval
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but I think it's probably a ministerial
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duty remains basically if you get them
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the crash harper's a I'm comes to you back to you guys you have to approve
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call from your okay and the board
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om is answer the question is is the board able to
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I am past to consider a resolution
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supporting or opposing whatever charter might be drafted
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her also are you can
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an individual truck trustees are they permitted to
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I'm take positions in public one way or the other
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with respect to the up to a charter
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the the condition drafted lawn or
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with respect to the petition and though ken an individual members
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aboard advocate that people should sign a petition
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and then a there's a charter an individual
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board members advocate
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that voters should vote for or against the Charter
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I'm I'm not seeing anything that would prevent individual
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board member individual capacity to support
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are not support for the charter
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proposed charter we can again and
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fine if there's any researcher now I miss research that one
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touch on that but I haven't said anything after viewing this that would
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prevent
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anybody else and
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I'm truck traffic Blackburn said bad
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that board members can't use district finest advocate
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anatomy yes we we haven't Minister okay
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that I haven't
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ceaseless I'm
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president I
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let me start first be talk about this
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15 percent committee
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and you mentioned it has to be
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it has to represent be representative I'll
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the racial breakdown be
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district or the city history when you say the racial
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you talking about that student population
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to serve racial ethnic socio-economic geographic diversity of the district
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sir circling about this is section 12.01
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5 section B that the voters of the district
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first population in the district this year
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the geographic to perceive the district
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me we might need an opinion on that yes i'd like a quickly we can get an opinion
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on
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be helpful I'm
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because I be interested in a minute back nearly 72 percent Hispanics in
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population are low-income
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per student population pop is a difference between my total population
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cell if we can get an opinion that the very helpful
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I'm the governing structure
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who picks this perk 15 person committing
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more the board trustees till
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does that mean that I get to pick to
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each Christie or do we have to come to an agreement as to who these individuals
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are
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and that the vote on it obviously but stacked ask now
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that out as you see it borges p 15 individuals
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its representative I'll be democratic retarded members
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I have to be Paris school-age children
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a 25 percent happy classroom teachers I'll
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the Borgata I'm sorry before can only ac
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as a body sorrow
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maybe you could suggest somebody berkeley appointments would have to be
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approved by the entire board
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okay I am and in
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people me the 15 slot a majority have to be
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jar remembers happier at Paris school-aged children
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in the still district condition and 25 percent mass the classroom teachers
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selected by representative
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our professional staff ok so at least six
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I'm sorry at least 6 8
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sorry practice I'm working on
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they have to be parents okay I can do the rest
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alright I'm how to work
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what are the boundaries as far as dialogue is concerned between
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trustees and the committee member so you
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I've heard talker image he brought up
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II I think general boundaries but how when
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when can we actually not talk to you these people on the committee
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from the very beginning or can I talk to him as an individual citizen
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got this processor
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Africa for like would be answered earlier
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I don't know anything that would prevent you
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talking as an individual
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up when it is subject to an election there'll be some
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prohibitions using district
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quiver your position
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whistles very much a gray area
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hi governing structure you product the potential for a shift in
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in the governing structure and it's really i mean I'm
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I'm getting a sense that this is really car project in just kinda do whatever
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you want to do if you're on this committee and
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you wanted to get rid of the school board to be given to the school boy but
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keep school were in place
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if you wanted to extend the term a school board members if you wanted to
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make school what people want to run for school board go get
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petition signed if we want to pay school board members
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all these things are in consideration for this committee
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if they so choose section 12 .0 25 says it all
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after quieter and operate under any governing structure
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am Sykes I get the governing structure
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let's change the conversation with a quick peek into the management structure
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does this open this up to say we don't want to have a superintendent or
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we would rather the district run just by an appointed board
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or are there any limits on that
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for they can do
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prime how should have a handout that has some other laws
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that cakes you still have to work governing body still have to follow
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later and the ones that charming you you don't have to
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ago got doctor blackburn at a clarification
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to up conversation you had about
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whether or not on board can be I involved in the management
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on the district under charter and he said all this of course has to be
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approved by their TA commissioner
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and with the implication that that's probably something not commission would
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not approve
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hi not that have had those are the questions I have
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thank you in
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in you term hi Qingyuan explaining
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& Noble of hair marijuana which be all about charters in the
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board I'm have the right and option to open charted
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which lowers its an spkr no SBT
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netanyahu hp5 giving up five other kids square have a difference between
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homeroom
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are and there
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if the fang back to black market thing talking the clap clap 30
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you're talking a subchapter D SB modified section 12
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portions well can you find a different because I know the law
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it changed into it 2013 that they gave a
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the right to do all there more
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they gave you all the right to grant open-enrollment charter schools
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believe is the correct in industry charter schools
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after church services on different lab I'm
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open-enrollment charter schools are her school's good part
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Bell scam her her mother sleep or
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education there some other
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up some other laws as well
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this is a home it's called a charter home rule charter
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charmers the governor ok establishes
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how this district would operate can we get our opinion on the different between
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the loggerhead they gave us a right to be able to do
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charters versus the home rule can we get opinion
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have their in thinking you call clarify
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understanding the Commission arm single-member district how
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it worked there in nineteen pickard
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73 maybe with a single member district because I've
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equal representation of bored a the history of the iraqi
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how with all that impacted where home rule charter
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could be impacted I'm workers which Turner
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earlier there's no pre-clearance anymore
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we won't be going to the justice department
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have them tell us it's okay before beforehand if they're
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her issues with their after the fact would have to be
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handle it that time me hypothetical situation a problem
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if you get all your signatures from a particular subgroup
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and you get not that many signatures from another subgroup
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how does that work that they go to the justice department
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so you can get all your signatures from per for example North Dallas
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by percent free from you voters very few signatures from the further sector
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Dallas
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that ever have to go to they don't look at it
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so this home rule charter understanding arm
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for you back to you you can get all your signature from what subgroup
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and don't have anything to try from another subgroup or maybe
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majority of the proper thing to get four percent from 11 percent from other
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who have not been the signature don't have to represent the makeup a
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that district back percent
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I rollers Sawant so the single-member district in nineteen
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72 or 73 that people fall to have representation at the table
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we technically can go back to bed
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although the commission if a point about the board
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on the Commission if only four year correct
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and being a subordinate track so
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how does that look its four-year cabinets if it's right here then after
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year after year benno
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and maybe we can I Q es ASI is
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they no longer act is not down with anyone using the trap
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to the Commission for approval to what they submit the draft to the
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Commissioner for approval
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up fifteen members represent up the district
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on at tripping me Gail on they have a year too familiar
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the Commissioner except that Commission
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and added become future up the district
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election over Commission affecting
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but the voters the school district will have to vote
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as to whether to adopt the car as the governing document or not
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with the Commission control the Charter are they fit that
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up at if they wanna bored they can fit the board up the favor what the board to
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look up thirty-third
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are I want the board to be out me and what the board to be are women
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the Home Rule Charter what they writing the Charter
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back what is written and become the future I have the distri-
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there the commission would approve it if they simply have to real
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number I'm just saying it I mean Bay right
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what to make up look like in being the Commission
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except that make up
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sure will review it as to whether you're excuse me
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trucking met you're talking on your break would you think you said something
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and I have a hard time proving a commission that required on the board
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member to be men
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a doubt with a hypothetical situation I'm
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down that's all I said I'm just trying to understand the Commissioner
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gonna go through the Commission the Commission except
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from the Commissioner except the Commission
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report what they think the charge should be years
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are a smart actions
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the Indigo who info1
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good voters adopt do that voters have a option the fray
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we want you know from other we want something added back in the Charter
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its ok for them up and down for whatever the Commission
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really commissioners have to live the Commissioner that appointed have to
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listen to the voters
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her governmental body it doesn't say what they do
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whether they hold hearings were held public meetings
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it's gonna be up to them if so with up to the fifteen people to determine what
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the district will look like in the future
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info they don't have good abide by
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public meeting community meeting freeholder meeting
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has to be a public meeting poster I know I know just to hear your ideas
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the bay from the pair they don't have to be commissioned a fifteen people
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they don't have to listen to the public
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out at some point to prove
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purpose marked a car but they don't have to go out to preparing for the different
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Peter patter
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okay what do you wanna see the future to be
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they don't they're not required by bf charter to do that
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Tyler if silent for bacon
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fifteen people came determine what they did about the chart to be
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committed to the Commissioner the commissioner said yea and a
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then put it on the ballot in the voters say yea and a
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for day whatever they want the charter to be
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day the fifteen people were determined there what happened for the border
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track these Gobin the single-member district is no longer
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single-member district got the charter would determine
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I'm here that's correct bogus Commission will replace single-member district
31:51
could replace single-member district
31:54
and that that was false okay brother can you get a fair riding the roles and
31:58
responsibilities from a legal opinion
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attract even if matter we can know I don't wanna
32:03
crossed the line hmm hurricane understand that great area
32:08
comp attorney arm iraq I would like to see that in writing
32:12
NBN on up
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at for now
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Polokwane anamensis
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martone cannot talk I think
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on than healthweek
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this thing could mean for well there is no more heard
32:35
there's an appropriate player requirements was poor voting rights act
32:39
which set up so that any
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changers any changes that have to do with voting
32:47
change appreciably line have to be submitted to the justice department for
32:52
preclearance to see you
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impacted the rights differ
32:58
members of the public to am
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Spring Park last year excited been applying more
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so we could go through redistricting next
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to provide pre-clearance crap this is a
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question from doctor blackburn regarding the petition signatures
33:24
is there are processed verify the validity of that
33:28
signatures on a petition me static and dynamic rapper said
33:33
happy probably been harming action will happen for operating
33:36
to make sure they are much powers within a district and be responsible for that
33:50
I got better fierce looking for like a banshee clearance her
33:54
to notice so I don't think my time on this but I
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do you think we need clarification on this so this district
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was part of a lawsuit once upon a time to take it away from
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on certain structure and put it in the single-member for
34:10
and that was to do something specific that is to balance
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interests across 380 square miles and a very large footprint when this home
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rules school district charter was created wasn't this really for the
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little
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districts out there the rural county in southern
34:29
other entities cook have a whole lotta options and resources at their disposal
34:34
wasn't that the origination up this
34:36
i cant subchapter B law I think it'd be good to know because the
34:42
large districts mean were know this question about population that trustee
34:50
police brought up is an important one because there's a distinction between
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our school population and the population a
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the residents were however you want to define it those who live within this 380
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square mile
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jurisdiction and and the second thing I with questioner
35:06
or at least want to see is some understanding around as we crossover
35:11
16 or 17 on how you count it municipal jurisdictions and we don't necessarily
35:16
cross over them
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in their entirety for example we don't cross over a hundred percent of the city
35:22
of Dallas
35:22
we cross over nearly 100 percent at the city at Addison
35:26
so these are voters that cut across a larger
35:30
setup municipalities then looking at one or being able to just focus on one
35:36
where where evenly on aligned
35:39
so that the issue
35:42
on voting rights it's not just around the representation over your
35:46
on your racial and other
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considerations your civil rights considerations but it's also a row homes
35:54
you're voting populations on your tax base
35:56
so also interested how that
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comes into play here when we talk about representation
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up
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I have other questions but I just didn't want to get up
36:17
around that happen I don't you go chris Gregoire
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have been thinkin you're thinking from are
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on 0
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I with Connor arm I get I get from going back to pre-crisis
36:32
clearance in the law food and what bothers to a third at 33rd
36:37
on and I i understand. know about the voting rights
36:41
with the justice department the pre-clearance phobia
36:44
absolutely when not have to go through uni three-cornered
36:48
for as just Armani we're bringing this year
36:52
cut there was a point in history and our
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that there with lack a representation from the african-american community in
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the Latino community
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for the how we got the single member district for weekend
37:04
have equal representation for this whole home rule charter
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work on a take back our we're bringing the conversation about race
37:13
the Dalek November been havin Jenner talks about it it's a thing
37:17
the mean when I looked at the signatures on it there with one
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lacked in a representation on that committee to african-american
37:25
and onto anglo
37:28
and the District majority Latino I'm just trying to figure out a week on one
37:33
back back works an arm at doctor blackburn mention I will love to know
37:39
the concern for what are the you know watered whatever whether they try and
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accomplish
37:44
with this home rule charter what exactly are they trying to accomplish
37:48
because it is something bad they don't like to try the van they wanna hold
37:52
government body that can get
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what they want to me normally when you have groups the track to break off
37:58
air we have some about parties and you know that other party
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it because there's disgruntled with something so
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is it possible that the group can prevent to
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explain to us what part a when I look at
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exemption that they are under verses a policy that the day
38:17
on the cut some of the policies our local
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policy and when you talk about local policy def policy that the border
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control
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some other policies are great power leave not detecting
38:29
detecting how be a profit day but high ever
38:33
ACPO local for their something that you could sit at the table to discuss
38:36
whether the
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you wanna the and we have arm up
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avoid I've disgusting
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why are we going to Home Rule Charter
38:47
why did you go this route what he did you wanna accomplishes the White Rock
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ISD
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if our Dallas I have be if the North Dallas I'm
38:57
the what it what about you go here and
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arm what is it for children and what they mean for our children
39:04
with academic achievement so I'm really confused
39:08
on and we're in the marrow of talking about when we talk about a budget
39:12
and for this is a I'm just trying to understand
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so can they prevented that if that a lot better role and responsibility
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that they can prevent to the border truck the the help of have a
39:23
better understanding what is the date you what is your outcome
39:27
with I goes into the issues
39:31
sent to the port with their aunt Annie's what that goalless
39:35
pick up adding that understanding yeah I would love to know
39:38
what did that mean go here because in that letter that was presented to the
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board
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if they go well it was if they'd about are stated a lot of being
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you know it talked about mom flexibility in the hiring in there
39:50
flexibility on might be in in an hour and teacher from
39:54
I'm you talked about a lot of being their I'm trying to figure out
39:58
what is your me and go here and how would the going to be in a bit
40:02
our children NY shirt
40:05
why are you going this route and
40:09
whether the Inco I would love that trustee president cowling
40:13
to understand that if they I'm a big given in writing
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our goals are wonderful 3 and at howard got a benefit our children
40:20
I'm curious to know how many I have children
40:24
just pick up
40:33
people that's one question on our
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I
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is this law specifically allow the school district
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that we can do now number not be a question for
40:51
the attorneys are the superintendent
40:56
this work well let me clarify get the process goes forward
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the commission for me charter but
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ever and it is approved by the voters what
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you know what is the difference between what
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called mister candid
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does what it can do now major
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shoe that candid camera now the word
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passes the chapter 21 law
41:25
that obviously com the
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the governing body would not have to follow most chapter one
41:32
if you wanted to terminated employees wouldn't have to go to TV
41:37
saying hearing evidence apply the rules of civil procedure apply
41:42
paper the hearing examiner I'll pay for the court reporter those type of things
41:46
should be more in line with
41:48
you how most private miss on insular
41:52
to me that's the major issue what could change
41:56
doesn't have to change the gutter Commission you appoint doesn't have to
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do that but they have the ability to
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not be under I'm a lot of chapter 11
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and these other ones and there bud I think that's a big
42:10
vehicle you not gonna be subject to the I'm sorry schedule
42:15
you could stay with your own salaries organ of course
42:19
you could have on school or
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we also could
42:30
we've been charter itself could recommend
42:33
the key truck berkeley
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this coincided crack cocaine some could have the flexibility
42:40
must not have the ability to ca up
42:46
art dinner did you were at
42:50
I occurred a few half-hour have to get
42:53
a legal opinion about to respect them have for example
42:57
on there are 187 day said we have
43:01
for teachers we could possibly change that that's requirement by law
43:06
from a mistaken I'm we can waive up to
43:10
five professional development days um
43:13
get away for four professional development days it would be good to
43:18
have more flexibility
43:19
now be something that chartered Commission could do
43:23
I'm the school start time
43:26
which is now my pic the fourth Monday in August
43:30
a Commission could change that I guess
43:34
and there's also dis
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several personnel rules for example
43:41
nine chapter 21 evaluations
43:45
administrators et cetera officer opened to the public
43:48
right now there could be changed
43:51
there's also some categorical funding
43:55
requirements for different I'm
44:00
different types of programs and codes
44:04
lying cuz I we have to follow and their
44:07
with your flexibility for that I'm
44:10
there's also several different mandatory training
44:13
and there's all this time it's almost a dozen
44:17
mentor training for teachers that could be change
44:20
and the gist of copper had to write things at
44:23
I a Charter Commission to change just a
44:26
where so wearing are
44:35
I just want to first before getting to a question
44:40
just a wreath stay am for clarity
44:43
what I've heard I understand that you're saying am i reading the code
44:47
def and the Education Code Chapter
44:51
12 hot well title two
44:54
public education and then subtitles see local organization governor
44:58
but its chapter 12 charter and so this has to do with
45:03
charters said charter school correct
45:06
has actually this is what this whole thing about charter schools and could
45:11
potential and this whole section how education ok
45:15
and then be actual area
45:18
with which we're dealing a Feb chapter be home rule school district charter
45:23
is that correct arcade just want to be sure that this is
45:26
third-party education code that deals with charters
45:30
that some places not in Texas passive used to go
45:34
the way up making their district a charter
45:38
school district arm
45:41
and then I'm this law
45:45
again I came into effect in nineteen ninety back
45:49
but if death if this group pursues it
45:52
Dallas would be to her school district and Texas throughout the
45:56
that Texas with more than a South Rim school districts the correct
46:01
correct with more than a thousand school districts March
46:05
small medium to try this is the first attack
46:09
nineteen years ourselves 10 and perfect
46:13
I am of hell death
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IOC law should this that girth
46:22
be pursued I
46:25
would Remo the public's right
46:28
hardwick no the public's right to elect
46:32
representative to the school board the public
46:36
would have nothing to do with this public
46:39
institution should the Charter be written that way
46:43
I quite that commission the public
46:46
may not are are could not would not necessarily
46:51
elected some represent each district to represent correct this product but you
46:57
wouldn't be with the
46:58
governing body would be required to do but could
47:02
this would be required it depends on that
47:05
but that charts the structured debt Commission
47:08
the myth that charter and Creek High the voters approved
47:12
the end the voters approve it alright and as the
47:16
law was written as I read through it
47:20
death require hi level our community
47:24
protest high level of community participation
47:28
and when you rare round
47:31
arm
47:34
I'll the be apartment Charter Commission
47:38
ver first one is op Michelle quite the board trustee shall
47:41
appoint a Charter Commission hi
47:45
hiya the boy received the petition requesting the apartment of a Charter
47:49
Commission to frame our
47:50
school district artifact that at least 5 percent at the register
47:54
about death the hearth and then of course it could be
47:57
you could go to the second but that was the first one mission
48:01
am law out the letter that we received a bad way
48:05
on the board Acme I didn't check describe came here
48:09
but on the board document the I'm
48:12
the a Texas Education Code Chapter two
48:16
here house correct
48:20
on the a posting for me to cash it back
48:23
is that it is not
48:27
after discussion as Texas educational chapter 12
48:31
that is posted on the I'm on fire
48:35
that is posted on higher I am is
48:38
the is letter
48:41
at that the board wifi that I
48:45
some cropped it this along with other things that we read about in heard about
48:49
meeting
48:50
before all the discussion before but if that letter
48:53
posted on fire on
48:57
it would think that that would be president Colin Fletcher
49:01
this relates to that this is the reason for this meeting at her house fell
49:05
requesting that that letter from the group
49:08
be posted there and sway com
49:11
different letter the letter that we received
49:15
are if about action that a group
49:19
if taking I am and to me it appears to be
49:23
a radical assault on the district
49:26
and the District I being
49:29
a public institution hi
49:32
still of it every it here
49:36
mom and at the ap education comb
49:39
did education party education cope tired too
49:43
chapter 12 subchapter a hi and
49:46
except chapter our be
49:49
I having with charters
49:53
and home district charter I love that
49:57
I am thanks to go against
50:01
everything this district has built and
50:04
developed at a public school district
50:07
but the grow is going moving ahead with what it wants to do
50:11
frescoes are purposely today it simply did to discuss
50:15
this because the group has see it it is doing
50:19
quick it much to do in this regard
50:22
on and and start their profits before
50:26
that correct that we're discussing a pic of
50:30
hour
50:40
I'm to mouth
50:41
frampton you support me are you in support of this stupid and now
50:45
know enough about what they
50:48
work I think it's a poor decision and which
50:52
filed a legal cross
50:59
crist president I'm beter
51:03
any type the guidance regarding how something like this
51:07
should be frame to voters in the first place i mean YouTube creator
51:13
somebody's out there and ask her in this case a.m. 501 c4
51:17
which is a political organization has been praying or form to
51:22
go out and his raising money to get petition sign
51:26
is right guidance about the language there and what effect does
51:29
to trigger a commission and whether there's any rules about
51:33
you know what that language is supposed to
51:37
her say or not say and how that campaign if you will
51:41
for a getting those signatures
51:44
is to be carried out for the law wants
51:48
they the governing body has crafted a
51:52
home charter the law says that it's posted on the ballot as
51:57
whether I'm not talking about that stage that way down the okay
52:01
i'm talking where we are today so why we're sitting here today is that
52:04
501 c4 has initiated a process to go out and get
52:08
voter signatures got to be able to bring this
52:11
issue to this body to
52:15
cause us to have to form a commission is that right
52:18
but a 501 c4 is not the same thing as for example what we would have been a
52:23
traditional bond election or some other process where there's complete
52:26
transparency about
52:27
the nature the organization that its a political that it's there
52:31
really to try to open up the possibilities of a process
52:35
a can you speak for a minute about that because
52:38
I recognize that there's nothing in the guidelines here but at the same time
52:42
that strikes me as being a very
52:45
non-transparent way to force an issue
52:48
I meant to voters who signed that petition where they being told or
52:53
whether they're
52:54
what's the responsibility of that body to on
52:57
educate the voters appropriately with battle or other information
53:01
to voters there than sign their name on a petition
53:04
10 C 14 responsibilities will be governed by that
53:09
statute her as far as
53:12
and involvement between
53:16
board members and the 501 C for I haven't seen anything
53:20
that prevents that like certain
53:23
law when you're under a bond election or some circumstance so
53:28
we can look into that for you I think that was one thing you wanna
53:31
has to look and so you know a lot of what we're hearing
53:35
here's is an outright criticism it sounds like a
53:39
what Austin hasn't been doing the things that a home
53:42
role district initiative would be able to
53:45
grant a school district are this flexibility around
53:49
areas where the law today on is rigid
53:52
for our sick that all we're talking about here
53:56
I mean I've heard things like chapter 20 wanna hurt things like
54:00
the number the hours in a day things like this with things that are within
54:03
the legislative control
54:05
to change or
54:09
coming so the fact that often have to what they wanted right so the fact that
54:14
Austin hasn't done it
54:15
this body would supersede Excel as a legislative body essentially
54:19
what when and if it were to be voted as a commission
54:24
instead of our good represents an often
54:27
to set those types of standards conditions policies
54:32
lawyer they have more flexibility in their exam on education cow
54:36
from everything for their that smacks ability
54:40
this fifteen or so this whatever governing body
54:43
if it hypothetically this thing goes through and there's a plan
54:47
whatever that plan suggests by way of that governance structure which could be
54:51
as trustee Ranger said
54:53
on a structure that has nothing to do with elected representation or nothing
54:57
to do with a
54:58
group of people being brought forward
55:01
from the voting population those folks basically can become
55:07
legislators in the sense that they can change the law or write the laws they
55:10
see fit in a lot of areas
55:12
because they wouldn't be bound by certain elements of our existing law
55:16
I still bound by balanced a mall is just armed forces
55:20
and education called an app out by right so though
55:24
in those areas they basically can do with a walk and governance is one of
55:27
them
55:28
a settler as long as the people the district broder
55:32
so we're called an Independent School District
55:36
in the state of Texas for a reason and that's because we are taxing bodies that
55:41
are
55:42
and as the taxing body there is it an element
55:45
to democracy that says you should have taxes taxation with representation
55:51
this that a fair statement compare
55:54
as American difficulty
55:57
a bless the USA but in the state access them
56:01
week talk about representation is an important part of our democratic process
56:07
so explain the basics this is a taxing jurisdiction
56:10
and it's comprised of a number of municipalities and other
56:14
bodies inside up this thing called a school district
56:18
how this home rule
56:22
entity whatever this plan creates by where the governance
56:27
a.m. has any checks and balances
56:32
and on how the draft charter crafted chartered have
56:35
checks and balances can craft one that doesn't have checked
56:39
then who's checking back where's the check and balance in that
56:42
there get the voters there are provisions for amendment there are
56:46
provisions for repeal
56:48
which are which is are basically the same as
56:51
the creation will be the same type of computer
56:54
so as far as the school finance part in the story is concerned
56:58
how does that come into play here today said attack with this entity have the
57:01
power to set a tax write
57:04
for the senate he would have the power to tax but there would be no way to
57:09
have representation pride to that taxation
57:13
by the voters who pay those taxes
57:16
a provisional ballot to repeal the Charter
57:20
but charter amendment on that's way down the road i'm talking about.
57:24
you know this entity where its powers
57:27
for this commission could write
57:30
a charter that essentially says you know we can appoint a bunch of fellow
57:35
or budget folks get appointed by some body to be determined
57:39
because we don't know that right up for which there's no elections
57:42
there's no public
57:45
input essentially and that body could then
57:49
set the tax rate and make all sorts decisions about money
57:54
with respect to work toward ending in
57:57
and so forth I mean I'm just try to understand
58:00
ultimately where the texan balances are here to a certain extent Amanda can't
58:04
change the obligations that the district has currently
58:08
so the taxes in the bond obligations were would remain the same
58:12
certainly mailroom liabilities with flow through to the
58:16
created ended whatever this entity would be
58:19
on but the assets would tip essentially
58:23
so they take our entire balance she with them
58:26
player but there's no but they could create an entity that there with
58:31
no voter participation whatsoever even though that voter is the taxpayer
58:36
or prospectively the taxpayer has an interest
58:42
met a pretty slippery slope
58:46
isn't that why a lot of these folks have not said this is
58:49
the idea that its cracked up to be because it opens that door in it
58:53
creates a very different
58:56
dynamic as well as a very different legal and and and
59:00
and democratic structure
59:05
I mean it would be good to understand I mean the state of texas senator
59:09
with respect to the school finance situation
59:12
clearly there's a lot more to the story that we need to understand
59:16
and that's another area would like to see a
59:19
some degree every search and background on what that could
59:23
me in
59:27
thank you
59:32
its flipping pages in reading we go back to section 12.01 7
59:44
bricklayer but that last sentence
59:48
if the sector's terms Carter can paint a change in the government to the school
59:53
district
59:54
Secretary of State shall not later than the second working day after the data
59:59
date the secretary state makes that determination of either for trustee
60:02
school district last sentence
60:06
I just sure understand the Board shall submit the proposed change to the United
60:12
States Department of Justice
60:14
or the United States District Court for the District of Columbia
60:18
for preclearance under the Voting Rights act catching
60:22
see that's no longer applicable also the Supreme Court ruling 2013
60:26
range consentual Jan 19
60:31
some to pop still there
60:34
that you can tell he the statue was not amended subsequent errors
60:38
Frank what ruling there with us first time in 1995
60:42
and at home is the ruling and what was that again shall be personally County
60:45
versus holder
60:47
2013 voter
60:50
prime trustee
60:54
iraq and we request the Attorney General to
60:58
opine on what that means and perhaps the Secretary of State
61:04
extra point I want adolescence that am to were present as refer to
61:10
where they're so farming strikes me that it still measured it at all
61:14
so it strikes me that we should follow state law may mean that we don't have to
61:18
wait for the day you can respond when
61:20
tracks threesome I'm kinda interested in
61:24
an AG's opinion in the sector state opinion on
61:27
what are are proper protocol is given
61:30
what's written into effect been at a federal
61:34
the voters right voting rights have at the federal level
61:37
ever so federal always on
61:41
on Bay here you can free up commissioner to ask the attorney
61:47
so you know recommend that we ask for that opinion welder
61:50
there's only certain entities and officials were
61:53
look to the bylaw cars were not one of those
61:56
okay I gotcha good right to the Commissioner
61:59
scale for you have to go to your routier
62:02
computer talk to the office your senator
62:06
I'm I had a question account Christian group
62:11
to I am supertanker red
62:16
her brain storms EMA things that you had this year think
62:19
applied anymore talk about how it might affect student
62:22
outcomes yeah
62:26
I think I am you know I'm forgiving
62:30
districts more flexibility always
62:33
our focus is on our kids
62:36
I know you know at the state level is always good rules and there's always
62:39
good reasons for the legislation it passed
62:42
but sometimes what we could do here
62:45
for example am we need more time markets need more time and more
62:49
then it to re-up the proficiency level so for example
62:53
I'll we have a lot of kids are not professional anymore time what s more
62:57
school days
62:58
how where always in favor of supporting our teachers and paying them well
63:03
I'm but it for kids who have longer school year then our teachers gonna need
63:06
a longer school year
63:08
it can't just be voluntary ban after dictate that men pay for it but
63:12
those are could also be good outcomes for kids again I'm
63:17
I i'm just answer your question work could some other things too precise
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and there what they would help race to the gym
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I think I have a question for our I understand correctly
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I'm just Cana read the letter and listen to what your favorite part in the mouth
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it sounds like on if this
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I'm trying to figure out why we're the oh why we're here talking about
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home rule charter when we have a lot of
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cup packed that you're going to get a the difference between allow
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they give their from the board flexibility for charter
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if there were depicted DEFCON to make the board comparably
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if if the list goes on and on why only grow shell the board also pat the new
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teacher evaluation
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and compensation system later this year f1 it being that home rule charter
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come wanted the more you talk more thing that you're in
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support about going this route because you keep sayin
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what you were gil you flexibility to do
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with summer that flexibility if that the state-level
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on and on you out of the pertinent and
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I look at from anything that we approved at the board
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everything have gone through to be able to help students
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outcome so i'm just still at that point of Konica few
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on what I E N Go what the game can we get clarification president count
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above the Ian go here on in why we are going this
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why are what it can we talk Kim
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they talk to a about the in gold outcomes and what they expect
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because of pro rose them our I request the role the responsibilities of a
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trustee
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they say we act that you begin the process immediately by holding a public
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meeting
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where you in the community are briefed in public on the home rule all
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we're delighted to join you at the meeting if you think helpful
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so are we to hold a public meeting Army for problem one
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c4 are there to hold a public meeting because in every letter
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they say we ask that you ask that you
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NBN talked about the accomplishment of the Boer
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ago then to the state-mandated regulation that the board have no
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control over
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so once again in looking at the letter can we get clarification
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about be in goal our roles and responsibilities
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in where the line the great area that check talks about
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again as I say earlier trust in our sector working in I'm
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these individuals to come to a board meeting
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18 discuss with her and can't be without me call them so that or
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would be olympic bar and gopac's that word
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in a family of strategy more plot are still there
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but in that tonight because the petition to save the petitioner going out onto
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be froo they want to work Ripper by yep
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the petition is going out onto d and if we're
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formed ever we found out the information in November
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and on if if they want to work with us
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so I'm just trying to understand once again in
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warehouse Mar rehear on butter
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and we get the first got the budget and what out across the building
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%um figure it out to fast-track on
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we still have upcoming budget the did prove in June
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and a whole lot of other stuff them up we a factory
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I wrap that out work question
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top so we have a choice we need to take a phone charges are so sore
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this group can go out and get but sector
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to take a bow to start ourselves tonight after
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no plans to put that on the agenda
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as board president so
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next step is it's their move correct
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good kind of got her political question hope
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I have because there's a lot of
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unknowns here I mean this this has never been done before
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there's no defined process there's no procedural book on how this should be
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done
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in any for mix up for what here in subchapter B
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so what's a just hypothetically to 501 C four's get out there
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and have petitions and each goes on the ballot
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and one passes the other doesn't but they have different motives their
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different acts
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you know how do you define then
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the focus of the or the ultimate
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home rule school district harder I mean what should be
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its charge if you don't know like fifth endgame
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it's because technically you can do anything
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you can create a a you can focus on a very limited areas in a home
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school charter plan you can focus on a whole Cascada various you could decide
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to leave the current governance attack
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but simply redesign your programmatic areas for example I mean these are all
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options there's a there's a myriad of options
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so this this is the part that's confusing to me is
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I thought and I was under the impression that it was the board
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Chris up the charge that if the areas of focus for example we're gonna look at
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governments were gonna look at
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you know the school day issues were gonna look at the structure of
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you know a teaching and learning something I mean there's at least some
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guidance about the areas by which if you
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go into this home rule school district order
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you know new entity you define
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the areas where you are trying to redevelop redesign change the
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IIFT structure so
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how we understand that I mean I A there could be five different groups out there
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doing
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running petitions and they can all be different they all say what's triggered
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this commission
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but the question I have is what is the Commission's charge
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I mean then it goes back to reappoint 15 people and then
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and then what in what was it what's their guidance in terms of what it is
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the work but they're supposed to be doing as a commission
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i served on the redistricting commission we're pretty specific choppers
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and I think everybody would tell you all redistricting commissions are the same
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in the sense that they have a very definitive charging very diff
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definitive rules and laws and guidelines to follow but in this case it feels like
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ap for wide open field and
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and so where wherein the when we appoint fifteen people what are they doing
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essentially to get together
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create a char and charter was approved by that commission
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goes to the loop large
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from the board members I guess board members could appoint
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the following board members just because the title 16 or got five percent
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that the voters to sign a petition they basically week that the Scot or
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they believe at that point the relationship to the process they hand
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over
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that they're just there to basically run a campaign but then once that campaign
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has ended and you've got the five percent
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you know you got the 25,000 signatures that are presented in to this board and
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they've been verified as being
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you are registered voters that what then we just a point 15 people and say
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have a nice day I mean now can make suggestions
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has been earlier have to take on ok you don't have to take
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so it's basically the wild wild west in terms of the power in structure and
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you know what they intend to do and then the question is whether their motives I
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mean what
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was nothing you could appoint some the board members to the commission if you
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want
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and some slots only because or you could make some
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obviously make recommendations made actual board members on there that may
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be a
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opportunity to alleviate some concerns I mean I understand your concern
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each can afford our ourself to the company's I became more and more
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on track alright make the really is a relief camp
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we if that it but I i think is the first time now
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be individuals capacity airport
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must have children related must 28
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after line only to me i cant I me with a great grandparents grandparents care
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just mostly children of school age and they they are bored mister
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point in point you all have children and their color
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week we all have a hundred and fifty nine thousand children weird sort of
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trustees are responsible for
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they're all our children
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every two weeks have a I have a couple more questions
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about them in Asia and I was wondering if I need one asked these questions can
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I directed
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do I direct them to you would like to return to the to the lawyers
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moving forward rather than sit hearing continue to ask more questions I think
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can be answered
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not a lawyer so director questions to legal the questions are in the public
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interest that would be a good idea to have them in with enough to let me ask
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my answer my question
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and the twenty-five percent of the Commission must be classroom teachers
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selected by
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the representative at the professional staff pursuant to section 11.21 5p
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what is representative for the professional staff the District Advisory
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Council
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and the District if Hance professional staff on it
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features that are elected to serve on it %um
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principal to
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thank you in
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been happening just took
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car hire them the the checks
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on the Commission are first at the border points the Commission
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second that the TA Commissioner has to approve the Charter
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and for that and voters have to approve the Charter
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I'm aka back
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the Charter let's be clear is a plan that this body
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rights as far as the end and
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elements of what the school district that the newly constituted school
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district becomes
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are unstructured it way in which it
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operates the way in which it spends fun within
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certain limits of the existing yeah there's no doubt about it that they have
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broad authority to
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write a charter but I'm just saying that checks that they go through
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are we appoint them we appoint a commission members
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that TA Commissioner has to approve the plan and the voters after approved the
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class
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doesn't mean that they don't have broad authority it just means that the
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authority has some checks
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so we're clear the voters issue
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the plan that ultimately goes to the voters that passed through by this
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commission
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I'm its 25 percent of the voters registered voters have to turn out
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and then it needs to be a majority so at least 50
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percent plus one whatever vote me
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is the way in which it passes
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trust iraq so I take a question about conduct number
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Commission a semi it has appointed by the Board
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that commission's going to conduct public meetings I'm assuming in this
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building
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I'm they're gonna be posted 72 hours notice
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I'm are they can have access to y'all legal services do we give them
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a budget we have Max's district resources can kinda described what that
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might look like
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ever piss poor repairs for the commissioner
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and they draft right around
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I pay them billion operating budget in which to do their work going on
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I'm assuming they're going to have a bunch a legal questions
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I'm so they're gonna have to have a some access to attorneys
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weakest a sense since y'all for example a part of our five million dollar
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procurement
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for attorneys you just answer their questions just like you would a
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need to check up on come up with a problem when I'm not sure what to
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where the problem 134 pay that but that to have a better time for
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that's a real good quickly with a question we need to ask who praised for
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their
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Commissioner canister at the other thing I would ask
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yep
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I to all of the parties in this case
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governmental body so the same rules apply your player
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a public official deferring rules
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so the question is where they fall public the interest I love their
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if we have to commit out there and we have to
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the rate how was it impact you rate it from one appointed
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maybe we can in opinion on base at that body question
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the resources the requirements for this governing body
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mock after
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when seems to me that we are asking for number
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opinions then we're back to spend a lot of money on something
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that we have just received and they're about and that we're getting information
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about
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the group to say it in the letter A someone mentioned
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and that believe that one point they said they'd be delightful to meet with
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beaded
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be lighted to delighted to meet with us or to work with that
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but this is after horse and that out the door
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they are ready to go tomorrow to do whatever it is they're going to do
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and except for to trustees who have met about this and
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the paper said if that's not true one trustee who helped start
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this whole frame and if that's not true them that trust interest in Iraq
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uncorrected
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on that trustees were not involved in this at all
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seems to me that and gone after about that the
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the and abyss what's the end result well it's very clear that the
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and without is to create an alternative system
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education alternative to what we have here
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one that potentially could have no check no balance
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lined up potentially if not does not represent the public
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and want the potentially would go towards privatization
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and corporate fresh Corp arising this whole school district
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and I'm totally totally against this potentially
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put public education in the hands a few
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we've talked about the money it appears that there
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a lot of money we had this whole effort and then we said well this can be
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repealed of the voters don't like a pic where they don't get the money
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organizational structure people been working on this all the fair
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and they have billionaire a millionaire
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and trustees working with the sock with the public want to get this to
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change this to turn this around if people wanted to work with us to talk
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with us about the it would happen long before track
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we got a letter at afternoon at ten o'clock
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i preciate are becoming familiar with our
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this but beyond this this group appears to be going on with whatever they want
78:32
to do they are ready
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tomorrow I guess is the day that God start on what they want to do
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I'm my real question here
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what the benefit a bit and what they're doing
78:45
if they day and they clean it out several I'm
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several points about what's going on in the district and what is happening in
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our schools
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that we already all know about but
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as I frank I was reflecting on
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very effective it is Adam happen they relate to public education in Texas
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well with these people when we were going to of two different from past
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school where are these people
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when we were going to often and throughout the state thing
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let's make education a priority
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the concern for our students should just start day with creating an alternative
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system
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it oughta be and we don't need alternative just in my opinion what we
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need is people with courage
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courage to face the lawmakers the hundred thousand voters you can get the
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fab
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petition take the hundred thousand voters to 22 of the next your turn the
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legislature
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and let them speak to the legislative say this is what's going on this is what
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we
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at voters what and public education
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what we need is people with courage to construct
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the law from the mandate that are preventing us from doing what we need to
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do in our school
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what we needed Avoca to contract
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lawmakers what we me I
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if transparency from those who are planning the
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activities clandestinely and then death before the knife our
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always will want to work with you all but the weather moved here anyway
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what we need is a and
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honest conversation with all good that includes all levels of people
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who happen estruth a concern in the support
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for public education and the children in this district
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what we need is a group this is we're going to be honest
80:39
about what's going on in public education how we can help Dallas I've
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the to be better what we need it's true
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and most about what we need is integrity not a group
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that is trying to form an alternative system
80:54
that comes to class and they have all the resources to do what they want to do
80:58
sabe ya today and what we're doing now
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what is therefore to do will quit talking about legal opinions all those
81:05
cost money
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to do this to do that if they bring all those petitions
81:09
it see if that we are forced to do and then we move on
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but that will be after the tabloid
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I am completely against anything
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I want this to be very clear that uphold
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public education and our crafty in public education
81:27
and are making improving doing what we're supposed to do ever governing body
81:32
to make the system and this
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entity dallas/ft better because this isn't happening
81:38
anywhere go intake
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Mishka adjuster wanted to
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I'm understand again com
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what the board's role
81:54
is at this point in time that the board
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if it wanted to as i understand much
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Sen could create a charter
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Commission the board doesn't want to do that
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on week we can be forced to create one
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if there are 25,000 or so
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signatures they're presented to us sir
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and that there's there's no other action that we can we can take
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if we up between disagree with the
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cop idea of forming pay Charter Commission
82:40
so just so I'm clear on
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this subchapter B is now nearly 20 years old and it was
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put in place long before all these other options that have come into
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all these other tools all these other things that school districts now have
82:55
the flexibility to do
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whether it's sp2 hp5 all these
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wonderful on provision it came into place long before all that
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happen so it's it's really an old piece o
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law that's on the books
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homer charter was at the same time o'connor
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I'm bitter almond a chartered what it was really trying to do with a local
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control is important
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which i think we would all agree is is a is an important
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self that districts have the maximum flexibility
83:31
and that they're being the widest array of options available
83:35
on for children an and
83:39
in the education system but
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what I've heard today is Commission can be formed that
83:45
has no there's no real oversight to its charge
83:50
it could essentially abolish education
83:53
public education and in im and maybe even go to a voucher system or some
83:58
other system that it determines is still within the context though
84:02
you know a the rules and there's nothing to stop it except the voters
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or potentially the TA Commissioner
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orders have turned coming describe the educational program
84:14
Minister private the continuation is contender not acceptable student
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performance and compliance with her
84:21
apple cobbler accountability provision it doesn't have to answer to the public
84:28
so you're basically saying we talk about public education we can take the public
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part
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am for that and up for grabs searchers make that a
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further than the petition and it's also prospectively could be a plan that
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includes taxation without representation
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that's possible and opens that door
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ideas thank you we it's too ready to
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it to death I'm PDF important preference
85:04
and stuff the to risk of
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are call responsibility
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according to the ok we took to preserve and protect
85:15
just and I'm asking President to
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put that on the agenda for us to discuss and light up information
85:22
that have come out shows tufty and on the run
85:27
specifically testing a wrap involvement
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for the weekend very clear
85:37
questions been asked to respond one much importance
85:41
to make up for the Commission I think we defining opinions and
85:44
clear guidelines if this does happen were in any very clear guidelines
85:49
legal guidelines on who can serve on that commission
85:55
are they clear they who can ceremony
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15 there there's some gee woodward is geographic diversity me
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was so show racial ethnic social economic
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diversity what is me. to us as a buy
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%uh I'm just and saint if this happens
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we get it that tack if it had record we get cricket
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mapping right now but also honored
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c'mon yeti this
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up
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aka
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is 830 where journey